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    If the world is going towards simplified logos, gotta at least make yours good. Firefox did that. Can’t complain.

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      Yeah, I feel like it’s one of the best current logos. It’s simplified but not oversimplified and it looks really good.

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      That’s not it. Mozilla has ruined firefox. They have added spyware and made google the default engine. Most of their profits go to shady places, etc

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        They have added spyware

        Uh, yeah; gonna need a source on this. You’re allowed to not like that they made Google the default search engine, but this statement is straight up-misinformation.

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            Takes a couple of seconds to change the default engine, turn off the gnarlier of the telemetry, and disable the sponsored stuff in the new tab page. Infinitely better than any other mainstream browser

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            Duckduckgo proxies bing search results (ober the api, they aren’t chad scrapers) and is therefore is under the foot of microsoft. This has forced them to whitelist ms trackers in their privacy tools but I haven’t heard anything bad about the search engine.

            Startpage scrapes google results so isn’t under anyones foot. It has had some controversy due to being bought by an ad company but they haven’t seemed to do anything bad yet

            In all, startpage is better than duckduckgo

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          It keeps Google from anti-competitive lawsuits. So it’s mutually beneficial, although the first thing you should do is change your search engine to a more private one.

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        Googles been the default engine since the Netscape Websuite days. I don’t always love what Mozilla does with their browser, but they do an excellent job of balancing “the web should be easy to use,” “the web should be humane,” and “the web should be what you want it to be.”

        If you want to say Mozilla sucks, that’s fine, go ahead, just be ready for that any other browser Dev group is either worse or dependent on being downstream of Firefox to do what they do

    • 𝖕𝖘𝖊𝖚𝖉@lemmy.world
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      Originally called Phoenix, since it was Netscape Navigator, reborn.

      But Phoenix Technologies disliked that, so they renamed to a descriptive name for the same immortal bird – Firebird.

      The Firebird database people would have none of that, so after a few-months gap between 0.x releases, they found the closest thing they possibly could which was not trademarked. It had nothing to do with the original name idea, fire being a weak link.

      And we’ve been stuck with that stupid name for two decades.

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        It’s kinda crazy the whole reason we have Firefox is a company was crushed by Microsoft and said “fuck it, shit’s open source now.”

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        There was a satirical addon back in this day that would change the Firefox name every time you opened it to like WaterHippo or SunJackal to make fun of this.

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    “What happened to me? People care more about polished functionality than their privacy, and are willing to trade privacy for something that steals all their data as long as it is “faster,” even though I’m arguably faster than Chrome at this point…”

    Most regular ass people don’t give one flying fuck about being owned by corporations, they’re happy to get reamed by companies that don’t give a shit if they live or die.

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    The new one looks so much better than that overdetailed crap, I don’t want a painting, I want an easily discernable icon. Also, I can’t believe we’re still doing Firefox so many years after its new logo debuted, especially since Thunderbird just changed their logo. In my opinion, it seems like people are just reiterating the same joke some bloke did without even looking up the why and how. And before you ask, yes I prefer the new Thunderbird logo too, it’s much more discernable.

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      Firefox gets so much crap for the logo when it’s probably the best minimalist logo there is. People just mistook the more general Firefox “brand” logo with the actual browser logo.

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      I understand the meme as being about the glory days (or at least closer to them) vs whatever slow, niche burn this is in the times of the new logo. Firefox is great, I wish they invested more money they’re getting into development though (they’re pretty good financially reading by the reports yet they’re… reducing development teams?).

      That said I’m fed with minimalism everywhere and want the detailed, colorful icons to make a comeback :’( Firefox actually does reasonably good job design-wise in the “modern world” (with the opposites being google apps - the epitome of generic blandness). I was reading article recently on neumorphism as successor to skeuomorphism trend and I’ve fucking got my fingers crossed so hard for it to become popular.

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    I’ve been using Firefox since it was called Phoenix, just looked and it has been 20 years.

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      “Oh hey, a lighter version of Mozilla without the mail stuff”

      It really has been forever…

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    I think it’s neat especially next to the new thunderbird logo. IMHO it still has character and is not oversimplified.

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      I have no memory of the 2002 one and I swapped over from Netscape which is weird… I have a vague memory of their thunderbird logo looking similar at one point but maybe I’m getting them mixed up

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      Didn’t it used to be called Firebird or something but had to change its name due to copyright? I remember when it was v1 and seeing advertising about it in the paper. It really did start the ball rolling in getting people away from IE. Chrome then came out and dominated.

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      I’m fine with the current logo. But, the 2002 logo looks rad. After that, the logo from 2004 is cool.