Can you get a PE license in software engineering? Serious question

Edit: PE = professional engineer.

In most parts of the United States the title “engineer” or “professional engineer” is a title with legal requirements & responsibilities in the same way calling yourself a medical doctor or lawyer would be. Folks with the credentials to be a professional engineer are tested & licensed by the state to practice engineering, similar to the way the bar or medical board would vet lawyers & doctors.

The dude certifying the structural plans for the bridge you drive over every day is in this category. Same with other categories of critical engineering from the fields of chemical, electrical, mechanical, civil, environmental, etc.

That said, TIL software “engineers” aren’t part of this group. Maybe they should be

Citation?

Nah, being fat is the embodiment of laziness. Your bias isn’t wrong, but good on you for trying to give people a chance.

I think updating the driving test to mandate proving you’re able to drive a stick would thin the herd quite a bit.

Especially in the USA

Ha I see we found the carpenter in the group. Our CEO & myself are both current pipefitters bud. And you are correct, I was referring to the employer advisory board on which our CEO & myself sit for our company.

Costs don’t matter as much if you’re operating in an area with sufficient union market presence. Go try starting a union outfit in Idaho and see if your “to hell with costs” ideology holds up lol.

Most small mom & pop outfits fall into that category - their competition isn’t union so unionizing immediately puts them at a huge disadvantage. Outfits like Starbucks on the other hand, they can most certainly afford the added overhead burden.

Lfmao you have literally no clue what you’re talking about bud.

You clearly have no idea how unions work and are simply regurgitating whatever incorrect idealistic bullshit you read on Facebook. You’re embarrassing yourself.

Our trade union employer dues (pipefitters, iron workers, electricians, sheet metal tinknockers, carpenters, millwright, laborers and operators) add about 15p on top of our overhead burden. That is the hard cost we pay to the unions to employ union labor, period. Thats before we bill labor at union rates for our work, which are about 30-35p higher than a similar non union tradesman.

Now we make some of that cash back on reduced workers comp rates (union labor is generally less prone to accidents on the job) but out the gate we are generally 30p more expensive than a similar non-union contractor, dollar for dollar.

Conservative talking points lol. Grow up & put down your iPhone bud, not everything boils down to a political debate. These are just the numbers from somebody who literally does this every day for a living.

I guarantee I am much more liberal than your uninformed ass lol. I agree everyone should argue for fair pay but folks most certainly need to be aware that it costs a company a lot of money to join a union. Most mom and pop companies aren’t union because they can’t afford it, especially when their competition isn’t unionized.

I’m the operations manager for a construction company that is signatory to 8 different trade unions. Just about every single union out there has an advisory board that includes employers.

Also, for those who don’t know, it costs a company a significant amount of money to join & be part of a union. I’m all for unions and am happy to see people learning more about them, but they certainly aren’t for every company. A lot of mom & pop small businesses likely couldn’t afford to join if their employees organized.

Yea bud, put down the Xbox controller and go touch some grass. War isn’t like Call of Duty

I served in Iraq. Shooting an unarmed combatant is murder.

Great book. Eh, maybe great isn’t the right word but it’s a good book to read. I was also recommended this book to deal with PTSD

This exactly. I think theres a saying that goes “our technology far outstrips our actual intelligence”. Surprisingly smart phones & arguably the internet as well are both technologies that we are unable to manage responsibly as a species. Confirmation bias is one hell of a drug

Back in the 90’s & early 00’s, if you were running around ranting about Jewish space lasers or kids being dissected in the basement of your local Pizza Hut, you’d be shunned, ridiculed and likely a visit from your local police department haha