For those who need it on here and actually want to address the biggest problems they are facing I’ll leave this here: https://www.choosingtherapy.com/15-best-books-on-self-love/

What I’m gleaning from the worst of the posters I’ve seen and responded to on here, it’s not even the hardship so much as low self esteem from making comparisons about the hardship they are feeling and getting most hung up on.

Every one of them get hung up on their perspective someone else’s thoughts about them. It’s always about someone else who ‘hates them’. And they cannot overcome it.

they aren’t seeing this as a self esteem problem but a problem with the world for not gifting them what they are missing from themself. Self acceptance. And living in that resentment and taking it out on everyone around them. You can see it in how their first go-to is ‘to tell the left to fuck off’ as being their entire reason for going right. They don’t even lead with what they are getting on the right unless you dig more than one conversation from it. So that tells you right there how little they are willing to work on themself when you have to basically pull teeth to get it out of them that there’s supposedly any depth in their decisions to go right.

this isn’t growth. This isn’t the trait of a survivor. This is not someone who is getting their needs met. This is victimhood mentality. You see this kind of rhetoric in full blown addicts who won’t seek therapy to stop their carousel of self destruction.

These incels are their own worst enemy. Not the world. Themselves.

I’m going to guess that you are speaking well about your mother as she’s helped you gain some good tools to see your self worth and regardless of what possible mean thing another person might even say to you: that’s a reflection of themselves. Not you.

And you said it yourself: others have had it as bad or worse than you. And you can recognize this.

you’re not alone in your struggle. No one is really. In group therapies you especially see this as each person tells their story : it’s the same thing for every listener (who is working on the self) that regardless of where they come from’ , we’re all struggling. And we’re not here to compare ourselves to others.

Looking at your situation as well as any survivors of hardship: they understand that they have to make a decision every day to commit to surviving. It isn’t something given, it’s something you do for you with intention.

I’ve not yet heard anything yet that at the right are actually offering them that helps them deal with this problem. There are no tools. All there is only anger and spite towards the left and a healthy side of a ‘poor me’ attitude.

Calm down incel.

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Nice profile.

Look at you. You’re blaming an entity for ‘abandoning’ you.

You know who doesn’t sit around being bitter and live in fragile worry about being abandoned?

People who actually reach out and deal with their mental health and take some ownership over it.

Doesn’t sound like the right are helping you. Sounds like they are Just feeding you a victimhood complex.

So what attracted you to this topic exactly if you’re not violent and found all the answers you need from the right to convince me or anyone you’re dealing?

Why did you personalize this post specifically to include you so much that you felt compelled to defend yourself here? Why do you care? How are the right teaching you to be accepting of yourself so well that you’re getting tripped up on what you think other people are thinking and how you feel about it?

How are you owning your shit if you’re joining a post to blame the left?

What efforts in mental health have you taken?

What steps do you take to help your homosexual brothers stay safe?

They are men too.

Attacking left isn’t addressing men’s problems so if you’re legitimately interested in men’s health and safety, attacking the left isn’t how you convince me you actually care.

And take any chance you get to troll online to threaten hostility to the left. That is after all why you’re here in this thread on this topic. It isn’t offering much in the way of dealing with feelings and handling challenges of life.

The whole thing hinges on a fragile balance on a very specific mindset that isn’t sustainable without following a very specific path.

Easy to melt a snowflake under that kind of pressure.

And throwing away homosexual men. Their safety isn’t even considered in your one little check box box when they face some of the biggest challenges among men.

Not really convincing me that men’s health is the forefront of your interest here.

So you think joining in threads just to rub threats in faces is the help men need. You’ve chosen Poking holes in all the tires and yell. That was your choice. The left didn’t make you this. You chose this.

Sounds like a lot of outside comparisons you’ve latched onto personalize and abandoned yourself and no longer affirm yourself. There is therapy for this(and some good books out there for it eg: unfuck your brain(they also have a podcast)/the body keeps the score, anything Jay shetty and brene brown I found these quite helpful )

So there are some options. That’s assuming you are willing to get involved in finding solutions for yourself with the problems you are facing.

But jumping into a thread and getting involved only to threat ‘going right’ rather than digging in on this stuff as mental health stuff to address into a working solution….weird.

It’s almost as if people are getting involved in this post to weaponize mens issues/mental health issues and not interested in being part of the solution in addressing these problems … also weird.

No one has mentioned anything yet what the right offers to help men as a solution. They only said going right as a ‘fuck you too’ threat towards the left.

You have a choice. Be the change or make threats.

If you got a flat tire you can pull over to the side of the road and either:

1: repair it

or

2: punch a hole into the rest of the tires and bitterly yell at all the other cars for having working tires.

If the second was your choice, you can’t pretend for a moment you got involved legitimately to fix a tire. It is a choice. It is your choice. Not everyone else. Not the left. Yours.

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The post is comparing genders political leanings and a comment trying to convince us with this tripe that it falls squarely on women who are argued to be voting on the left here and you’re here saying we’re permitted to talk about the why of it. The permeation of violence that does shape men’s world.

And violent men who don’t want to talk about it….where are the Epstein files….

We’re talking about it. Regardless of your ‘permission’. I do not need your permission. No one here does.

Men are more dangerous to all genders than women. This is statistically a fact.

Let’s be clear: this is not the same as saying women never violate men. Cuz I know that’s another little card all you incels like to reach for whenever this fact is brought up to try to steer it off course. And let me warn you: if you were gonna lean hard on that: you no longer can convince me you give a shit about men or mens mental health if that is how you think this should play.

Placing the ownership on everything else: women, the left, the dog, the cat, everyone but the person who CAN change the situation is being done here.

Stop blaming the left.

Stop blaming women.

Pull up your big boy pants and Own your shit.

I like how the maga women are leaving their maga husbands even in White House it’s like yeah…just wearing an maga hat doesnt make you as alpha as you thought bro. On that note I wish Steve miller gets swallowed by his top lip one day.

the left doesn’t seem to care

So if a guy beats up a woman your compliant here is the woman should placate him to make him stop somehow.

If memory serves the only people who did grumble about her on Reddit at the time were deeply misogynistic incels who were very bitter about being told to clean up their room by their mom and channeled all that hatred at Skyler. Also deeply related to Walter white without acknowledging he was not that great of a person some pretty severe ego issues.

Picard he’s also hard in the beginning. He started out way more crotchety grouchy than he ended up being

Skyler was the most relatable character of breaking bad. She embodied the ‘not a victim’ mentality to boot.

Brace yourselves… farts are comin

Ok, So again, as it was explained: the manipulation.

Not for disagreeing in comparing circumstances (and I don’t believe this is about jobs btw) but just to point out about jobs you’re mentioning : people might not leave a job because they can’t afford to or have no other option.

And in the case of health coverage which is what I believe this is actually about considering the shooter CEO was regarding health coverage, a victim would have no such option. Their only option is to die with or without the coverage.

Refusing coverage just to watch a person die on the street is abuse. It’s manipulative. And it should be considered slaughter. It shouldn’t be ignored. It should not be reduced. It should not be silenced.

This type of manipulation comes from the same place. And it works because of the same reason. I’m comparing manipulator to manipulator tactics and how effective it can be on a victim in either situation.

And the fear to leave can cover much bigger scope than just DV when it comes to following the landmarks on how this type of manipulation works.

The other problem is people tend to brush off a victim as if they have so many options and you’re doing the exact same here by comparing how much worse something else is which is not what the comparison is about.

See it’s interesting you picked that to reduce everyone else’s situation when reduction is a problem in and of itself around how society treats victims of domestic violence and bullying.

It’s disingenuous to pick a side and then echo the exact systematic society problem of minimizing a victim situation against victims just cuz you think one is worse than the other.

Both things can be wrong.

There is no quota on what to care about here. Everyone who’s in a bad situation at the hands of a manipulator deserve to be safe.