And this is why I get increasingly tired of the whole privacy-seeking endeavor. Jumping through hoops to get GrapheneOS+Linux working for me, with the sacrifices that come with it, only to have my government hand out my healthcare and biometric data to the US anyway. It’s all so tiresome.
Okay so, the same industry that is trying to kill video games is now worried that a game from 30 years ago nobody ever heard of has a bug?
Google needs to go back to taking their meds.
What compromise are you doing with GrapheneOS+Google services that you aren’t making with microG? In my experience the sandboxed version of Play Services works much better than MicroG, with the added security of using an android native service developed by Google themselves.
You can argue “MicroG isn’t Google” but it actually is since it’s just a bunch of Google libraries with some FOSS costing on top. And again, you’re more likely to get your phone remotely hacked by a silly exploit that was patched months ago but still got you because instead of GrapheneOS you decided to use some other security-void like Calyx, LineageOS or /e/OS.
What a weak line of argumentation. Hopes and dreams don’t matter on the face of reality.
There is a reason why investigative journalists, activists and whistleblowers use GrapheneOS, and it is the only OS that is recommended for such use cases. It’s the only OS that has the receipts to prove their are resistant to remote penetration breaches from the likes of Pegasus and common evil maidens like Celebrite.
There are no high-risk personas using microG OSes. The ones who did are now dead.
You’re free to use your insecure and outdated OS of choice that allows you to feel good about using the equally insecure MicroG. Just stop pretending it is a viable choice for the majority of consumers, who don’t want to have to throw away their phones because they got infected by a swarm spam bot that also drained their bank account.
You can add Portugal, Spain and (I think) Estonia to that list. But really the tendency will be for more countries to adopt this technology. Whether we like it or not the degoogling/PrivSec community is really niche and most people prefer to use standard phones, and there these apps work perfectly.
MicroG is insecure software and there isn’t a single ROM that uses it that passes even basic security checks. Low tier Chinese hardware is more secure than the best ROM using microG, including /e/OS.
My country’s gov has a 2FA app to authenticate logins for public services, check digital IDs and pay taxes. No web version for that. Local banks also use that system to validate your KYC so you need to have it on your phone anyway.
All of my banks are neobanks except my savings account, so also no web banking there. These banks have several “pots” which you can use to divide your money (bills, holidays, use later, etc) so the interactions with these apps are pretty much daily. I also don’t like to have too much money readily available so that in case of my card being cloned, the hackers won’t be able to take more than 100 euros from me.
There are also public bikes that are free to use but require a specific app that for some reason didn’t work at all on my GrapheneOS install (I think due to Google Play Services seeing my Os is not signed by Google). I’ve also had issues in the past in a city where you could clock in and out of the metro station using an app, but I couldn’t use it because of GrapheneOSs strong anti-tracking features. Had to fork out extra money every time because paying for the metro through the machine would force me to charge at least 10€ at a time while the app would take the exact money due from my account if I used it…
So yes, 1 inconvenience at a time is how these alternatives OSes become major PsITA to use. It’s not just the banks, it’s also the obscure local apps that are necessary to live a normal life. If you have free time to search for alternatives or don’t mind the extra work then it’s probably fine, but when you have a job and need things to just work then it becomes really jarring to use. Just my opinion.
Framework is a US company and nobody wants to pay a premium to advance fascism thank you very much.
Thinkpads are a safe choice. I have the same use case as OP and i use one. Battery last 7-8h of light use, plenty for a plugless day’s work.
Thinkpad x1 carbon gen 6, or if you’re willing to up your budget a bit, a x13 is also a great fit.
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My disappointment is immesurable and my day is ruined.
I mean, considering how many bluescreens Windows is giving these days, you’ll probably have a more stable experience in Arch lol.
OpenSUSE tumbleweed: Up-to-date, unbreakable due to Btrfs+snapper, very secure defaults (firewall), based in Germany. It works perfectly on my Thinkpad, so I couldn’t ask for better.
Lmao in hindsight I probably didn’t read the graph correctly. Apparently more people want on desktop. I was looking at the dovosoon by country.
Still, are people watching porn in cafes? Or worse, are they masturbating in public? Hmm…
Well, I’m confused as well. Like, I never ever watched porn on my phone. Only on desktop. But apparently I’m a 6% minority.
Install an update and it’s borked? No worries
OpenSUSE also does this.
New PC and you want everything set up just like your old one?
Install scripts? Of course the individual apps definitions still need to be set up again, but I’d imagine it’s the same for Nix?
Is your hardware always the exact same? Because if it isn’t, then I’m sure you have to do modifications to your config file. And at that point you night as well just use a regular distro instead.
No, I don’t. Samsung and other authorized OEMs run stock Google services so there’s no benefit to using them. Those devices are also substantially inferior to the Pixel in terms of security features anyways.
The only phone I recommend is a Pixel with a properly set up GrapheneOS install, making use of profiles and private spaces depending on which apps you want to expose to Google Play Services/Framework, and which you don’t.
Ideally your most used profile is filled exclusively with FOSS or privacy-respecting apps that can run without Google services. And I’m talking about going really deep even on elemetary things like using an offline keyboard like Heliboard or FUTO that won’t send everything you type to Google/Microsoft/Apple. Or using Gboard but with network access blocked.
Yes, this set up takes time and some research, but it’s the only way you can guarantee your data is properly split between what is just for you to see, and what others see.
A device that is truly yours and not someone else’s to mine for data and spy on you, possibly getting you in trouble in the future when a government demands your data from Google/Apple.
But if you’re not willing to put in the work to set it up, then I don’t recommend any other Androids. Stay on iPhone instead.
Hold on, you think GrapheneOS isn’t perfectly private (and you’d be right, it isn’t, and their main focus is security anyway) but you think iPhones are better?
Why, because Apple told you it is? Because they have some gimmicks that sound good on paper but don’t actually protect your data in any real way?
Okay dude. Reach out to me whenever cus i got a bridge to sell you.
Also, everything you said is incorrect, and so is your conclusion. But I don’t think we’ll ever see eye to eye on this so why bother.
In other words “ethical hackers” wasted a great opportunity to give shithead politicians a taste of their own venom. Very frustrating.