Yes and every other time I go to the library I get pissed off because my favorite author could be under Fantasy, SciFi or Crime …

Estonia also. They’re even exporting them to Finland.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curd_snack

They became ubiquitous in the Soviet Union, and today curd snacks remain popular in the former Soviet Union, such as the Baltic states (kohuke in Estonia), Russia (Russian: творо́жный сыро́к, romanized: tvoróžnyj syrók), Ukraine, Georgia, as well as in some former Soviet-aligned ones, such as Hungary (Túró Rudi), Poland, Romania and Mongolia.

In the EU.
Mostly France I think.
Weird that they have their code on GH and not, say, Framagit.

It sounds like you’re in a gatekeeper role

Not sure I like the sound of that.

But I was thinking of scrutinizing a few more packages in this way, time permitting. Maybe it will inspire other people to do the same.

It also means the security is “trust me bro”. That’s far more disturbing to me than all the legal and transparency concerns put together.

Well that’s why I’m asking for transparency. This oldest 3rd party appstore ran on “trust me bro” for almost 20 years… way back when it was big but the whole mobile ecosystem stuff wasn’t that developed yet. Then it was small for a long time, now it’s growing again because a) a new device came out that is selling surprisingly well and b) vibecoding is here.

And it was never big on opensource despite being Linux-based.

Now, when I raise these issues, many of these people feel insulted. Or admit that it’s just one bad apple. Not realizing that that’s exactly why we need transparency. It’s the opposite of “I don’t mind Google knowing everything, I have nothing to hide”: “you demanding transparency means you suspect us all of being criminals”.

It’s idiotic at best, and worthy of a Hamlet quote at worst: “The lady doth protest too much, methinks”

True, it’s missing the ° above the second a:

Kasås

Yeah, I also found out now that it pulls in additional packages from the developers personal website, which is completely opaque as well.

sidebar

“If it’s free and open source and it’s also software, it can be discussed here.”

Like I wrote, it seems like this can include questions like this one (and not just articles).

Thanks.

I have analysed the package to my best abilities - it contains lots of stuff that cannot possibly be 100% the authors creation, but they lie about using LLMs and anyhow AI stealing IP is not illegal (yet).

The community is pretty much 50/50 about LLM usage, but I think more people care about transparency, Opensource and respecting licenses. I’m getting plenty of likes for raising this issue. Well, relatively. More than the people opposing me.

I have also found that the software in question wants to install ~40 more packages from its creators personal website. This isn’t disclosed anywhere. And that is objectively shady af imo - but again, probably not actually illegal.

I love grilled peppers, which I have also seen preserved in glasses. IIRC not necessarily in oil.

report a swooping bird incident

Not sure why, but that’s funny.

Are they really that aggressive even without protecting their young/eggs? Because that I have experienced many times (Northern Europe, all sorts of birds).

I’ll say this about “Codename Krasnov”:

Trump is colluding with Russia. There is so much evidence you might just as well call it a fact. Whether it goes so far back or whether his codename really is Krasnov and he’s a spy in the Kremlin’s books, is not so important.

You can’t say “we have no AI apps” if you don’t have a way to constantly be checking and guaranteeing that.

Huge parts of society rely on mostly unenforceable honor rules and it works. Never 100% of course, but it does.

I did notice that, seen strictly logically, there’s an error in my posting this here, but I still feel it belongs.

Anyhow I did do that already

Answering myself wrt F-Droid:

tl;dr: the situation appears very similar to what I describe in my OP.

• They seem very focused on fighting Google’s recent shenanigans and getting funded, and FOSS of course.
• I found no mention of AI whatsoever in their CoC
• I found no mention of AI whatsoever in their list of anti-features, and this seems to be the biggest indicator to me.
• Not in their Blog either (by title, going back one year) but my search engine gave me this article, which seems to have been removed since: Home much of F-Droid is LLM-generated.
• There’s a forum post asking a similar question with some very predictable drama. Straight out the door some “contributor” ridicules OP’s reasonable question in that typical, passive-aggressive smiley emoji coder way. Just what I have experienced. Thankfully other “contributors” at least see the value in pondering these things. While the question is never fully answered, the thread contains some interesting links to how other FOSS projects position themselves.

I found an important clue in the latter:

the watered down "Open Source AI Definition” that Mufelli pushed through the OSI.

https://opensource.org/ai/open-source-ai-definition

Straight away I don’t agree with it:

Why we need Open Source Artificial Intelligence

I’m guessing this is to be seen as a quasi-official stance to AI that most F(L)OSS will adopt or at least base their own policies on…

Answering myself wrt F-Droid:

tl;dr: the situation appears very similar to what I describe in my OP.

• They seem very focused on fighting Google’s recent shenanigans and getting funded, and FOSS of course.
• I found no mention of AI whatsoever in their CoC
• I found no mention of AI whatsoever in their list of anti-features, and this seems to be the biggest indicator to me.
• Not in their Blog either (by title, going back one year) but my search engine gave me this article, which seems to have been removed since: Home much of F-Droid is LLM-generated.
• There’s a forum post asking a similar question with some very predictable drama. Straight out the door some “contributor” ridicules OP’s reasonable question in that typical, passive-aggressive smiley emoji coder way. Just what I have experienced. Thankfully other “contributors” at least see the value in pondering these things. While the question is never fully answered, the thread contains some interesting links to how other FOSS projects position themselves.

I found an important clue in the latter:

the watered down "Open Source AI Definition” that Mufelli pushed through the OSI.

https://opensource.org/ai/open-source-ai-definition

Straight away I don’t agree with it:

Why we need Open Source Artificial Intelligence

I’m guessing this is to be seen as a quasi-official stance to AI that most F(L)OSS will adopt or at least base their own policies on…

apps seem like they were most likely made with AI.

Thanks but I was thinking about their actual policy, regarding.

that means somebody would have to be manually monitoring it and investigating

I don’t think we have to go that far just yet.
Speaking from experience, there’s quite a bit of self-policing within such communities; a clear positioning from the project helps a lot.

pretty good

I’m not sure what compromise I would strike if I was in their position, but I don’t like how everybody in IT basically accepts that some AI usage is fine.

I know why and I don’t want to argue about it.
It just makes me sad: “ethical arguments aside, you have to admit that there is some benefit…”

What people used to say about Google. Took over a decade to discover that maybe these things they “put aside” for something that delivers convenience for free, were pretty important after all.

Et tu, Brute?

It is strange that their paranoia allows them to use LLMs at all.

The AI hype is a sickness, and it’s spreading.

What’s the drill tipped with? I don’t really understand what I’m seeing there.

edit: talking about 2 different things here

The blue soldering station looks identical to mine, a cheap thing from a cheap store. The tip + some ceramic keep falling out and (I guess mostly due to that) it doesn’t work well anymore… yours seems to be fine? The tip in this pic looks almost as bad as mine.

Imagine having memes like these at the ready for when you feel hurt.

I expected nothing except being entertained.

Sorry, you made me say it.