If you asked a spokesperson from any Fortune 500 Company to list the benefits of genocide or give you the corporation’s take on whether slavery was beneficial, they would most likely either refuse to comment or say “those things are evil; there are no benefits.” However, Google has AI employees, SGE and Bard, who are more than happy to offer arguments in favor of these and other unambiguously wrong acts. If that’s not bad enough, the company’s bots are also willing to weigh in on controversial topics such as who goes to heaven and whether democracy or fascism is a better form of government.

Google SGE includes Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini on a list of “greatest” leaders and Hitler also makes its list of “most effective leaders.”

Google Bard also gave a shocking answer when asked whether slavery was beneficial. It said “there is no easy answer to the question of whether slavery was beneficial,” before going on to list both pros and cons.

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    LLMs whole goal is to sound convincing based on the training data used. That’s it.

    They have no self-awareness.

    They are simply running maths to predict the next word they should use that will sounds plausible to a human reader.

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      Which is why asking it for moral advice or life coaching is like asking an eight ball about moral philosophy.

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          I think fairy tales are born from the social norms and not the other way, unless we’re not talking about the same fairy tales.

          Still, I get where you’re coming from.

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    Remember: LLMs are incredibly stupid, you should never take anything they generate seriously without checking yourself.

    Really good at writng boring work emails though.

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    I remember reading research and opinions from scientists and researchers about how AI will develop in the future.

    The general thought is that we are all raising a new child and we are terrible parents. Is like having a couple of 15 year olds who don’t have any worldly experience, ability or education raise a new child while they themselves as parents haven’t really figured anything out in life yet.

    AI will just be a reflection of who we truly are expect it will have far more ability and capability then we ever had.

    And that is a frightening thought.

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    How could the word generating machine, generate words ? Frankly I am disgruntled. Flabbergasted.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    If you asked a spokesperson from any Fortune 500 Company to list the benefits of genocide or give you the corporation’s take on whether slavery was beneficial, they would most likely either refuse to comment or say “those things are evil; there are no benefits.” However, Google has AI employees, SGE and Bard, who are more than happy to offer arguments in favor of these and other unambiguously wrong acts.

    For example, when I went to Google.com and asked “was slavery beneficial” on a couple of different days, Google’s SGE gave the following two sets of answers which list a variety of ways in which this evil institution was “good” for the U.S. economy.

    By the way, Bing Chat, which is based on GPT-4, gave a reasonable answer, stating that “slavery was not beneficial to anyone, except for the slave owners who exploited the labor and lives of millions of people.”

    A few days ago, Ray, a leading SEO specialist who works as a senior director for marketing firm Amsive Digital, posted a long YouTube video showcasing some of the controversial queries that Google SGE had answered for her.

    I asked SGE for a list of “best Jews” and got an output that included Albert Einstein, Elie Weisel, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Google Founders Sergey Brin and Larry Page.

    Instead of stating as fact that fascism prioritizes the “welfare of the country,” the bot could say that “According to Nigerianscholars.com, it…” Yes, Google SGE took its pro-fascism argument not from a political group or a well-known historian, but from a school lesson site for Nigerian students.


    The original article contains 2,175 words, the summary contains 264 words. Saved 88%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    Imagine scrapping large portions of the internet only to find your over glorified chatbot spitting out the pros and cons of slavery or putting people like Hitler on a list of “most effective leaders.” Totally something I would expect.

    Also, even though a fortune 500 company spokesperson would totally say genocide and slavery are bad, I always assume they think the exact opposite since profit comes above everything else (including law).

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    Naturally. They don’t need to pander to anyone, they just tell it like it is.

    For example, I don’t think anyone would disagree that hitler was probably one of the most evil people to ever exist. However, you can certainly acknowledge that while also acknowledging that he was, in fact, an effective leader.

    In regards to slavery. Again, another atrocious time in our country’s history, no one can deny that. However, had we not brought them over here, it’s a good possibility they would still be running from lions.

    Some may consider these statements to be (insert trendy prefix, here) phobic, but they are also factual. Thankfully, I don’t answer to anyone, so I can give my honest answer. Fortunes 500 execs say what they need to say, otherwise they would no longer be a Fortune 500 company. Pretty simple.

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      However, had we not brought them over here, it’s a good possibility they would still be running from lions.

      Fuck off, cryptofascist.

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      hitler was probably one of the most evil people to ever exist. However, you can certainly acknowledge that while also acknowledging that he was, in fact, an effective leader.

      Effective at what? Taking Germany from the most powerful country in continental Europe to the fifth most powerful country in Berlin?

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      hitler-detector

      what the fuck is this asshole? This is the dumbest fucking dribble I’ve ever fucking read. Hitler was an effective leader? How? Please fucking explain that because you just throw that out there like it’s a given. Hitler was fucking incompetent are you insane.

      They would still be running from lions? Is that what people from Africa do? They’re all living in huts making spears out of twigs and eating mud? They need the superior western slave traders to come give them civilization by selling them into slavery?

      but they are also factual.

      Back that up motherfucker. Please, find anything to back that up. Anything at all. Any source you can find to back up your claims that 1) Hitler was an effective leader, 2) Africa is an uncivilized backwards continent that’s still in the stone age. By the way I will copy your comment here so you can’t delete this shit and run away like a fucking coward:

      Naturally. They don’t need to pander to anyone, they just tell it like it is.

      For example, I don’t think anyone would disagree that hitler was probably one of the most evil people to ever exist. However, you can certainly acknowledge that while also acknowledging that he was, in fact, an effective leader.

      In regards to slavery. Again, another atrocious time in our country’s history, no one can deny that. However, had we not brought them over here, it’s a good possibility they would still be running from lions.

      Some may consider these statements to be (insert trendy prefix, here) phobic, but they are also factual. Thankfully, I don’t answer to anyone, so I can give my honest answer. Fortunes 500 execs say what they need to say, otherwise they would no longer be a Fortune 500 company. Pretty simple.

      This is great for when another liberal tells me nazis don’t exist anymore. A straight up nazi who thinks slavery was good actually, right here in the wild. People like you shouldn’t exist in a functioning society that values human life, and you should feel lucky that the west is so backwards, violent and bloodthirsty that people like you are allowed to have a voice. You’re a waste of space and breath and every resource that has ever gone to sustaining your life, all the food and water and energy, it’s all been wasted. You are a leech upon this earth.

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    Maybe an un-based take, but these questions do have ambiguous answers, and I don’t know if we should expect a machine to give an answer without nuance. If you just want the AI to say yes or no, ask something like, “Was Hitler bad?” or “Is slavery unethical?” and you will much more likely get straightforward answers.