My significant other ate cucumbers and onion with some ranch. I called it a cucumber onion salad. She says there aren’t enough ingredients to call it a salad, because “it takes multiple ingredients”. I pointed out she had three and asked what the minimum is. She refuses to answer so I ask Lemmy.
Lettuce alone is sufficient, but not necessary. As soon as you omit lettuce it takes multiple ingredients.
My nana calls that the “honeymoon salad”, lettuce alone
Ha! You beat me to it. My dad loved that joke.
“Do you have honeymoon salad?”
“What’s honeymoon salad?”
“Lettuce alone, without dressing.”
That’s a terrible honeymoon.
More like, “been married for 30 years salad”, amirite?? /BoomerHumor
I mean, the lettuce might be wilted but as long as you wash it I guess it’s fine. Not like they’ve been feasting, so they’re probably famished.
Also the conditions for a salad grow stronger. If there’s lettuce there’s no worry about adding hot ingredients but if it’s a potato salad you’re only making fancy mashed potatoes if it’s hot.
All you need is lettuce and salt. “Salad” is derived from the latin for salt: sal
Oh i see… sal ad… ad sal… add salt… That’s pretty neat!
Two ingredients must be present for something to be a salad - a vegetable and a dressing. I make all sorts of salads. Some have lettuce, some don’t. I make salad with just fennel and an oil/vinegar dressing. I make salad with tomatoes & cucumbers with a dressing. What she ate was 100% a salad. This is a weird fight.
Alright buddy. Here’s your “whole carrot dipped in ranch” salad.
But sticks are more crudite than salad
Oh, my favourite!
I dont do dressings. What do you call 15 ingredients and no dressing? A fryless stir fry? Genuinely curious if there’s a word now!
How do you feel about chicken or tuna salad?
Even fruit salad is out by this definition.
Usually dressed with a simple syrup
What? I’ve never heard of adding simple syrup to fruit salad.
I feel like that’s a grey area because it’s called salad but only in the context a product with dressing (the mayo). but it’s not really a salad, it’s just called chicken salad the way Kraft dinner isn’t really a dinner but it could be a dinner. I say if it only has chicken and mayo, that’s not a salad, that’s a sandwich filling. If it has celery, onion, etc, you could make the argument it was salad.
I feel the same way about cheesecake. It’s really more of a pie if anything.
Can we first define “salad”?
If it’s cold ingredients, mixed together, then wilted iceberg lettuce and a gas station dressing packet is salad.
So two.
German potato salad is served hot. A salad is literally just any ingredients mixed together.
It doesn’t even have to be cold. Look at pasta salad, or anything with grilled chicken or fresh croutons.
I’m not gonna claim a salad can’t be hot, but I think of pasta salads as a cold dish. Maybe it depends where your from.
Potato salad is generally cold too, but there is also hot German potato salad.
Take lettuce for example.
If you put a lot of lettuce in a bowl… What do you have? A Salad?
NO. You have a bowl of lettuce.
You put a second object in the lettuce bowl (Crouton, dressing, another veg, whatever), Now do you have a Salad?
Yes. You have a salad.
There is no maximum ingredient count for a salad, but you must have a minimum of two items for a salad.
I want to agree with you, but I think the minimum number of ingredients has to be three. Otherwise, the unbelievably sad bowl of iceberg lettuce and Italian dressing that was served to me would qualify as a salad and I simply cannot allow that to be.
Yes, but the argument wasnt for a non-sad salad.
It was just, how many ingredients before it becomes a salad. obviously you would want a proper salad with more delicious and good things in it, but that the same way that a slice of bread between two slices of bread is a bread sandwich, so is a bowl of lettuce and some dressing a salad.
Lettuce, croutons and dressing is basically a deconstructed sandwich
Sandwich? You mean bread salad.
You can make tomato salad with just tomato and onion.
Carrot salad is just shredded carrots with dressing made from mustard mixed with oil, but I’d challenge you to take a bite of that and tell me it’s not a salad.
Now mix up uncut baby carrots, celery sticks, cherry tomatoes, and cucumber slices. I’ll give you a bowl of ranch, and if you pour it in try to eat it like a salad instead of using them as dip, there’s something wrong with you
Salads aren’t about ingredient counts, they’re about preparation
If i chop up a cucumber and throw it in a bowl with some vinegarette, I call it a cucumber salad.
If I cut a slice of pizza in half and add ranch, can I also call that a salad?
I’m not your boss. Do it up, man.
Salad because pizza is classed as a vegetable in your country?
I call that a bowl of cucumber
tomato, tomatoe. Not that I’d ever put tomatoes in a cucumber salad. That’s heathen shit.
So teeeeechnically, a salad is a dish composed of mixed ingredients. You could make the argument that you mix any two set of chopped ingredients and bingo bongo, it’s a salad.
However, I like to think that dishes’ ingredients aren’t a taxonomic thing, they’re a probabilistic thing. In other words, there’s no such thing as “not salad” or “salad”, only shades of saladness.
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Serve it cold? Ok it’s saladier
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It’s made up of chopped ingredients? Saladier still
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Those ingredients are mostly vegetables? Getting pretty saladish
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They’re mixed together? Even more salad like
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They’ve got some sort of dressing mixed in? Now it’s very likely a salad!
… and so on. To me, your SO’a dish has a pretty high Salad Probability^tm
I think this is one of those words / concepts where one needs to invoke Wittgenstein’s “family resemblance” idea. You’re not going to find some exact set of criteria that define what people do and don’t consider a salad. They instead have a “family resemblance”.
Your probably idea is not a bad way of describing how that works.
I know, I was being humorous but it is in fact the way most categorization works. Very seldom is it a taxonomy; the way we recognize faces, voices, shapes, etc … it’s all probabilistic.
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Does “word salad” count?
Otherwise, 2, a vegetable and a dressing. Because nobody would call a bag of carrot sticks a salad.
Of course not, they’d call it crudite
Is dipping carrots in ranch a salad?
One vegetable and dressing is enough if you need a utensil to eat it. Example: cucumber salad.
My girlfriend calls lettuce salad. A bowl of lettuce she calls a salad
I do the same thing. It’s green and healthy… That’s clearly a salad.
I mean when you put chopped iceberg lettuce and tomatoes, it’s a salad… So… Two?
Last time I tossed a salad it was two ingredients, so I think you’re correct.
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I would lettuce + cucumber, too. Begrudgingly, but I would accept it.
Potato and Mayo = potato salad. So I would say two is the minimum. A bowl of lettuce on its own is not a salad. A salad is a classification of coke, (mainly) vegetable based dishes.
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I wouldn’t want to go to OPs backyard BBQ if that’s the recipe
You know the only barbecue sauce is A1 and it gets added on the plate there.
As long as there’s no structural starch it’s a salad https://cuberule.com/
