• CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml
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      3 years ago

      Uh, yes? I don’t support the blatant invasion and warcrimes by Russia but I can recognize Ukraine has a fascist problem too.

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              3 years ago

              Muddied? There’s this thing called “nuance.” I support Donbas independence, I simply don’t think it gives Russia the right to invade anywhere outside of Donbas, is that that complicated to understand?

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                3 years ago

                When 99.9% of people who unironically use the word tankie, and think that ‘fascist’ means ‘anything I don’t like’, also fiercely oppose Donbas independence, and when the one I’m talking to is also refusing to just give a clear answer, I’m not about to say I’m in the wrong for asking some clarifying questions.

                Also, why doesn’t it give Russia the right to invade? Was it wrong for the allies to invade Germany proper during WW2?

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                  when the one I’m talking to is also refusing to just give a clear answer

                  I very clearly said I supported their independence, but okay.

                  Also, why doesn’t it give Russia the right to invade?

                  So let me get this straight, you support civilians being massacred and innocent lives being lost? You really think Ukraine is on the same level of Nazi fucking Germany? Honestly I wouldn’t even much of a problem if they just invaded Donbas but they’re invading the whole fucking country and causing so much death and destruction. How is that justified? How can you call yourself anti-war and anti-imperialism and justify a brutal invasion? Some true colors being shown…

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                    3 years ago

                    you support civilians being massacred and innocent lives being lost?

                    no, this was why the people’s republics of donetsk and luhansk invited military aid, and was the cause behind the Minsk agreements as well as Russia recognizing the Donbas republics