cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/1338851
Archived version: https://archive.ph/yDjTx
Archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20230811193345/https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-fire-all-regional-military-recruitment-chiefs-zelenskiy-2023-08-11/
Quite literally just blocked their community when they appeared on my feed when I saw the extreme toxicity in the threads in their community, and the strange superiority complex they have going on. Had to do a double take to see what community I was in when I read the comments, thought I accidentally didn’t block them…
It’s like 4chan had a baby with the extreme “left”, and retained all the mental capacity of the former.
Ironically they support Russia, the bastion of leftism /s
“Everyone knows that the left and the right are the same and that the REASONABLE MODERATE CENTER is best! Right? Right? It’s not as though Biden is a war criminal rapist segregationist and virtually the twin brother of Trump, right? America might have some problems (ongoing slavery, genocide, imperialism, civilizational suicide via climate change) but it’s still overall a force for good, right???”
I get that you guys love seeing trump do stupid shit and abuse his power as president, because it vindicates your view of the US government, but still, the asshole that tells his fans to harass people and shits on rule of law is objectively worse than the ones who didn’t, please. I thought one of hexbear’s redeeming qualities was at least anti-homophobia, anti-misogyny, etc. This whole “trump is no worse than anyone else” is just crypto-trumpism and one example of why you guys are accused of being the lefty version of MAGAts.
Roe v. Wade was undone and LGBTQ+ rights are collapsing with Biden and the Democrats running the country. Biden also regularly sends the police to deport and/or imprison anyone who isn’t white. Nobody loves or funds the 100% nazi police more than Biden; Biden has actually signed MORE drilling permits than Trump. Biden and Trump are fascists, as are you for excusing them.
I’m not an American… I goddamn hate this American-centrism so many Americans have online. Get a grip, you’re not the center of the planet.
I’m a leftwing proudly out homosexual, voted for the marxist party in my country in Europe, and voted leftwing my entire life before that. I’ve got friends who were trained by greenpeace to climb nuclear power plants. If you asked a centrist I’d be part of the extreme left (well everyone in Europe would be by America’s standards).
But sure, if you feel better about me being an American centrist in your headcannon, and my problem not being the general toxicity of what I saw in that community, then so be it.
I’m frightened to ask about what their positions are on any policy at all. Let me guess: do what amerikkka says or your are helping putler. That kind of “marxist”?
Yeah, they are indeed crypto fascists, you are so right. Man you are the smartest person ever right? If only I could enjoy a second of your wise divination powers. Why ask, you already kkknow the answer!
And ofc you bring up Putin, should’ve expected it. A bit sad though simping for potentially the richest guy on the planet, who has been running a private army that’s busy doing modern day imperialism in Africa. Such improvements! It’s way better the mines are exploited by Russians instead of French!
Yeah no my ideals don’t make me choose between two evils, I reject them both, but hey if you want to support Russian authoritarianism that’s your choice, it’s just not equality or leftism.
“I reject them both” = i luv amerikkka
It’s really amazing. “I reject them both, but very curiously I only criticize one. Why could that be?“🤔
Dude I literally called out western imperialism in Africa…
And yeah right now I’m not calling out the US because it’s a topic about Ukraine defending itself against Russia. If this was Afghanistan or Iraq I wouldn’t be whining about Russia either, but about the US. Context matters…
But funny you didn’t deny supporting Putin in this imperialist war of his.
As you would say: “Only complaining about the US = supporting Russia”
See how dumb that is as an argument?
Your assumption that Ukraine is an independent country is already an implicit endorsement of American imperialism and slavery. Ukraine has not been independent since the Maidan Coup in 2014. There are recordings of Victoria Nuland confirming this; to deny it means that you are living in a fantasy realm, one paid for with the blood of slaves in the global south. And when you recognize that American imperialism and settler colonialism is a boot on the neck of the global south, you likewise understand that anyone fighting it deserves our critical support, even if they are not angels. Besides, even if everything liberals say about Russia is true, the Iraq War alone is and was a far greater crime than anything [the liberal Harry Potter-esque fantasy of] Putin could dream of. And besides, wasn’t the modern nation state of Russia created by American liberals in the first place? How much money did Clinton give Yeltsin in the 1990s?
My Ukrainian friends disagree and I’ll have to defer to their judgement seeing they live there.
Your idea of “independent” is also a country subjugated to Russia. What an improvement! Not withstanding that Putin’s own war declaration speech denied the existence of a Ukrainian cultural identity, calling them all Russians. You are literally supporting someone who consider an entire culture as lesser not worthy of existence. Wow, such great ideals you hold!
Right, so you do support Russia. I’ll never support anyone supporting Russia, while people in my queer community have been dying and persecuted for years there.
You delude yourself into thinking Russia is “fighting your fight”, all I see in your argument is one boot replacing the other. If only you could live under the yoke of Russia to see what kind of nightmare you’d be living under.
You delude yourself “one greater evil justifies another unrelated evil”, that’s a really messed up moral compass. Do you also support Israel’s actions then because what happened to them in ww2? What evils are allowed to happen, and which ones aren’t in your strange moral compass.