I interviewed at a place a few weeks ago. They promised everything I wanted - mostly remote, salary range what I was looking for, and so on.
Did the full circuit: initial screening, initial tech call, then a ~4 hour tech challenge + talk with the team, team lead and finally the CTO.
The CTO, at the very end, tells me that the salary range actually tops out £10k below the minimum they advertised (£60-80k instead of the advertised £90-120k) AND that remote work would look much different - they need people 4 days a week in the office plus at least 2 weeks a month full 5 days. Basically, if you’re lucky, you get the inverse of the advertised 1-2 days a month from the office…
Of course I stood up and left, but these assholes are banking on people being desperate enough to ignore massive red flags like constantly being lied to from the very beginning.
Well, I suppose that’s the whole point of the imbalanced power dynamic, and the only way to make changes will be to all potentially make personal sacrifices for the collective good, but sips tea, that’s just like, my opinion, man.
Agreed, but pressure from the outside is all any of us have until we are in the situation ourselves, and my hope is that if I were, there would be enough pressure to amount to support if I saw consequences. I wouldn’t think twice to contribute to a legal fund for someone in that situation.
There ought to be a law against that kind of bullshit advertising.
(Parse that both ways: 1. Maybe there is one if you look hard enough for it, and 2. If there isn’t then maybe it’s time to talk to a legislator about crafting one.)
If you had the initial offer in writing I would email it to them and say you’ll take the job for no less, and based on their response and your local laws, take it to either a lawyer, a minister of parliament, or the reviews section of any site they post their jobs.
They genuinely believe this.
I interviewed at a place a few weeks ago. They promised everything I wanted - mostly remote, salary range what I was looking for, and so on.
Did the full circuit: initial screening, initial tech call, then a ~4 hour tech challenge + talk with the team, team lead and finally the CTO.
The CTO, at the very end, tells me that the salary range actually tops out £10k below the minimum they advertised (£60-80k instead of the advertised £90-120k) AND that remote work would look much different - they need people 4 days a week in the office plus at least 2 weeks a month full 5 days. Basically, if you’re lucky, you get the inverse of the advertised 1-2 days a month from the office…
Of course I stood up and left, but these assholes are banking on people being desperate enough to ignore massive red flags like constantly being lied to from the very beginning.
You have to start black balling these companies. Leave named reviews everywhere.
I agree. Are there sites that do reviews? Glassdoor got bought out awhile ago and is deeply enshittified
Not quite bad offers but if they ghost you: https://didtheyghostyou.com/
Company name, please and thank you. Your experience is worth little if you don’t share the company name.
I would usually agree, but this company seemed vindictive enough to try and corner me legally if I shared details.
don’t be a dick don’t be a dick don’t be a dick
Well, I suppose that’s the whole point of the imbalanced power dynamic, and the only way to make changes will be to all potentially make personal sacrifices for the collective good, but sips tea, that’s just like, my opinion, man.
To be fair, that’s easy to say when you’re the one asking someone else to make that sacrifice
Agreed, but pressure from the outside is all any of us have until we are in the situation ourselves, and my hope is that if I were, there would be enough pressure to amount to support if I saw consequences. I wouldn’t think twice to contribute to a legal fund for someone in that situation.
There ought to be a law against that kind of bullshit advertising.
(Parse that both ways: 1. Maybe there is one if you look hard enough for it, and 2. If there isn’t then maybe it’s time to talk to a legislator about crafting one.)
Not to give you homework in particular.
For Fonix’s case there already is. That kind of Bait and Switch advertising is illegal - it’s more a matter of enforcement
Bait and Switch is illegal, and you don’t have to look very hard to find it.
Well that would be going straight on Glassdoor and similar with no punches held if that happened to me
Absolutely disrespectful behaviour to brazenly lie to candidates
If you had the initial offer in writing I would email it to them and say you’ll take the job for no less, and based on their response and your local laws, take it to either a lawyer, a minister of parliament, or the reviews section of any site they post their jobs.
Maybe even CC somebody important for extra spice
Sadly no writing, only got told over the phone…
Sounds about right. Refuse to put it in writing, because then you’d actually have the ability to go after them
Them bastards
Sounds exactly like a Bait and Switch, no?