BS. A recurring theme of DS9 was that the federation principles only exist because in times of crisis there are people willing to do what must be done to prevent annihilation.

Both Ross and Sisco did fucked up shit. They didn’t do it because they wanted to, or because they deluded themselves into thinking they had the moral high ground. They knowingly crossed lines they swore they would never cross because that’s what they felt they needed to do to ensure the safety of their people.

They weren’t wrong.

Nothing Ross did when working with Section 31 was worse than what Sisco did during the events of In the Pale Moonlight. We just didn’t get a POV entry of Ross monologuing about how he hates what he’s becoming, but at the end of the day he can live with it.

Best Admiral was Ross, hands down.

“Millionaires row” could also describe any collection of homes on Long Island above 2000sqft at this point.

I feel like all these decisions don’t mean anything until the justice department case resolves.

I mean yeah honestly a huge part of European national identities seems to be getting subsumed by philosophies that originated and primarily exist in the US.

I’d imagine that Trump serves as a wake up call in regards to that stuff, but at the end of the day I’m not French.

The only time I’ve heard of “bury your gays” was Voltron, which IMO was a good series that was murdered by a fandom that resented it for not being their personal self insert fan fiction.

Look man this “grown adult acting like a middle school bully” thing worked on reddit in 2019 because everyone was terminally online and you’d be backed up by twenty plus commenters hurling vitriol.

It’s 2025. There are maybe 15 people total interacting with this post. I have a life in a way that was impossible during the covid era.

Grow up.

Sure, but the vast majority of people realize what’s going on if an IP starts rambling on about freedom, Jesus, or the thin blue line. You can make comments about those things being transparent pandering and the overwhelming majority of people will just believe you.

Meanwhile up until recently that wasn’t really true with liberal pandering, and it still isn’t in a lot of spaces.

One thing to note is that I disagree with you on using Chick-fil-A as an example. They are true believers when it comes to this stuff, and half their claim to fame is being good to such an extent that liberals eat there anyway.

The difference between actual diversity revolves around tokenization, flanderization, homogenization, and of course gaslighting.

“culture war” minority characters are often inserted into narratives where they don’t quite fit, are often one dimensional characters, and often all act in a certain way based off their race/gender/sexuality combo, and are often inserted to gaslight anyone who has an issue with the low quality of the underlying product into thinking all criticism is bigoted.

It’s the last point that both you and Ubisoft are leveraging right now. If they replaced Yasuke with some burly Japanese dude, the entire discourse would be centered around how this game is a mid-at-best title for way too much money.

Instead asshole stans like you come out of the woodwork to push a narrative that most negative criticism centered around bigotry.

There are plenty of IPs with minority characters that don’t get shit on, because both the IP and the characters are actually good.

Enjoy your $70 mid-fest.

Okay so explain to me why things like Spiderverse and Baldur’s Gate receive nearly ubiquitous acclaim in ways Snow White and Assassins Creed doesn’t.

It’s a giant scam to get people to defend low effort mediocre content.

It worked for a while, because there was 100 percent a subset of people who just bought games because of social media hype. The combination of the changing media landscape and economic environment has resulted in this falling apart.

Look if you can’t tell the difference between actually well designed games with a diverse cast and Ubisoft crap number 12 then that’s on you.

I feel like a huge portion of corporate America has adopted the following strategy:

• Half ass a product despite a comically large budget, resulting in a product that ranges in quality from mediocre to downright terrible
• Stick some culture war shit somewhere in the product
• Expect reviewers to give you overwhelmingly positive reviews based off political virtue signaling
• Put a magnifying glass on the vocal minority of genuinely toxic fans, so that you can claim everyone who doesn’t like the mediocre product is toxic
• bullshit about sales numbers
• Obfuscate individual success/failures on earnings reports, and blame overall underperformance on “macroeconomic conditions”

Like at this point it’s on me for engaging with these posts I guess.

In an effort to make the post full of engagement bait, the dude ironically made it less engaging.

Remove every bullet point except Lombok, and you got yourself a proper flame war.

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The issue is there is always Tumblr text below that implies the Klingon are trans forward.

First, the trill are not trans. Each symbiote/human pairing is considered a distinct person, albeit one with similar traits to their predecessor. This is emphasized on multiple occasions throughout the show, and is a central plot point in multiple episodes.

Second, the Klingon are one of the most ass backwards regressive societies in the show. They have a system that’s run by a select few aristocratic houses. They are bound by an ancient honor code that only Worf takes seriously most of the time. Women are explicitly disallowed from serving as the head of their house. The idea that the Klingon society is at all progressive is absolutely divorced from any sort of reality.

Finally, all of that is present in episode. Jadzia is explicitly told she is not bound by Curzon’s blood oath, because she’s not Curzon. The other two klingons basically spend the entire episode implying that as a human woman she’s not capable and shouldn’t be here. At the end Jadzia hesitates to kill the Albino in a way that Curzon never would.

It’s incredibly obvious that people who post that meme have not watched DS9, including the episode they are referencing. Instead, they are leveraging a Star Trek fan sub to push low effort pro LGBT memes.

It’s not the pro LGBT part that pisses me off. 90s Trek is progressive of LGBT issues. It’s the fact that they didn’t even bother watching the show. These people make being queer their entire identity, are in a star trek sub, and are too lazy to actually watch the fucking show.

So by “original Star Trek” you’re actually referring to a fundamentally different series. This hypothetical version of Star Trek magically keeps everything you like about it, while shedding anything problematic or downright bad.

The lengths anyone on this site will go to avoid admitting that they made a stupid hot take comment is wild.

In the defense of people who constantly post the meme, they’ve never given enough thought to Star Trek to consider that some random Tumblr screen grab isn’t accurate.

I’m always stunned how many people on this subreddit come off as vocally progressive, but don’t bother actually watching the show. I guess that would take a modicum of effort.

Cow pies. “Original Star Trek” clearly referred to TOS.

If OC meant a modern rendition of classic trek, they wouldn’t be speaking in hypotheticals. They’d just refer to SNW by name.

OP what do you think of Discovery?

I ask this because 9/10 times someone talks about how Star Trek was “always woke”, they are usually just salty people don’t like Discovery and trying to pretend that most people who criticized it were bigots.

The other 1/10 times it’s someone who doesn’t even watch Star Trek trying to hijack the sub to push a bunch of performative culture war nonsense. However that usually involves a Tumblr post implying the Klingons were socially progressive because of how Kor treated Jadzia Dax.